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	<updated>2026-05-14T22:33:55Z</updated>
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		<title>Tristan Miller: Apologies: TM</title>
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		<updated>2025-01-03T17:43:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Apologies: TM&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 17:43, 3 January 2025&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>Tristan Miller</name></author>
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		<id>https://www.big-8.org/w/index.php?title=Minutes/2024-12-20&amp;diff=4007&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Rayner Lucas: Page creation</title>
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		<updated>2024-12-21T04:46:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Page creation&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Present: MM, RL&lt;br /&gt;
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* Administration&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|rec.arts.comics.reviews}} and {{news|rec.arts.comics.info}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** TM to post LCC, per [[Procedure to remove newsgroups#Moderated newsgroups]].&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|comp.sys.wearables}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** RL has set up a temporary STUMP instance for the group. He will now contact Greg Pfeil to confirm email addresses to use for notifications, group administration, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|comp.protocols.dns.bind}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** Last contact from Dan Mahoney on 2024-10-26.  Agreed to defer consideration a while longer.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|rec.radio.broadcasting}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** Last contact from Jay Henning on 2024-10-31.  RL wrote to him on 2024-12-04 requesting an update, but received no response.  RL wrote again on 2024-12-16 asking him to reply before 2024-12-20 to let us know his intentions.  Still no response.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|comp.os.plan9}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** TM has been corresponding with Anthony about publicizing the change in moderatorship. Awaiting an update from Anthony before closing the MVI.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|comp.lang.asm.x86}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** On 2024-12-08 Terje wrote to the other two volunteers, offering to keep the approval address on his server.  Awaiting further details.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[news.groups.proposals]]&lt;br /&gt;
*** The group&amp;#039;s signing key uses the e-mail address ngp-approval-key@ngp.big-8.org.  Agreed to leave this as-is for now, as this is just an identifier.  We can later consider adding a new identity with a new address, and/or upgrading to a GPGv2 key.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|comp.compression.research}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** TM still to prepare a group removal RFD.&lt;br /&gt;
** Moderated groups without moderators&lt;br /&gt;
*** TM and RL sent comments on the mass RFD via email. MM to prepare a new version that include these changes.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[news.admin.announce]]&lt;br /&gt;
*** TM has written to Tim Skirvin to ask if he is still interested in moderating the group.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|misc.test.moderated}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** TM was going to write to JK to confirm that the robomoderation software could post submissions to the group rather than acknowledge them by email. Awaiting update from TM.&lt;br /&gt;
*** On 2024-12-10 Ivo Gandolfo wrote offering to run the autoresponder. Agreed to accept this offer; MM to get the new submission address from Ivo and notify the ISC.&lt;br /&gt;
* Infrastructure&lt;br /&gt;
** Status of cron jobs for offsite backups:  No further update from RL.&lt;br /&gt;
** Remote monitoring&lt;br /&gt;
*** MM has been investigating Munin but Debian packages only an older version.&lt;br /&gt;
*** MM liaising with Ivo Gandolfo to set up monitoring.&lt;br /&gt;
* Software/funding&lt;br /&gt;
** TM: No update yet on GPG signing best practices on Savannah&lt;br /&gt;
** Thunderbird 128 contact deferred given Julien&amp;#039;s comments on INN.&lt;br /&gt;
** TM still to respond to Julien.&lt;br /&gt;
** OTF IFF/NGI0/[https://www.sovereigntechfund.de/ Sovereign Tech Fund]: no further updates&lt;br /&gt;
* Misc&lt;br /&gt;
** Paul Schleck proposals: no further progress.&lt;br /&gt;
** BDCAM25: RL looked into bursary information, will notify TM about his eligibility.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Meeting minutes for 2024]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Rayner Lucas</name></author>
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