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		<title>Tristan Miller: Created page with &quot;Present: RL, TM, MM  * Administration ** {{news|rec.arts.comics.reviews}} and {{news|rec.arts.comics.info}} *** No response from Tim Skirvin.  It was agreed that TM would revise the RFD to reflect what is known about {{news|rec.arts.comics.info}} and pass it on to RL for comment.  Following RL&#039;s approval, TM will post it. ** {{news|comp.sys.wearables}} *** RL e-mailed Greg Pfeil today offering to (temporarily) host a STUMP installation for the group, pending setup of his...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Present: RL, TM, MM  * Administration ** {{news|rec.arts.comics.reviews}} and {{news|rec.arts.comics.info}} *** No response from Tim Skirvin.  It was agreed that TM would revise the RFD to reflect what is known about {{news|rec.arts.comics.info}} and pass it on to RL for comment.  Following RL&amp;#039;s approval, TM will post it. ** {{news|comp.sys.wearables}} *** RL e-mailed Greg Pfeil today offering to (temporarily) host a STUMP installation for the group, pending setup of his...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Present: RL, TM, MM&lt;br /&gt;
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* Administration&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|rec.arts.comics.reviews}} and {{news|rec.arts.comics.info}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** No response from Tim Skirvin.  It was agreed that TM would revise the RFD to reflect what is known about {{news|rec.arts.comics.info}} and pass it on to RL for comment.  Following RL&amp;#039;s approval, TM will post it.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|comp.sys.wearables}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** RL e-mailed Greg Pfeil today offering to (temporarily) host a STUMP installation for the group, pending setup of his own moderation system.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|comp.protocols.dns.bind}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** Last contact from Dan Mahoney on 2024-10-26.  Agreed to defer consideration a while longer.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|rec.radio.broadcasting}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** Last contact from Jay Henning on 2024-10-31.  Agreed to wait one further week.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|comp.os.plan9}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** No further activity on the MVI since 2024-11-03.  Agreed that TM would respond to Anthony to ask about his plans.&lt;br /&gt;
** {{news|comp.lang.asm.x86}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** No further activity on the MVI since 2024-11-01, and last contact with Terje Mathisen on 2024-10-18.  Agreed that RL would write to Terje Mathisen and encourage him to get in touch with the other volunteers.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[news.groups.proposals]]&lt;br /&gt;
*** E-mail from Jonathan Kamens indicating that he will be shutting down the moderation infrastructure for {{news|news.groups.proposals}} and proposing that we take it over.&lt;br /&gt;
*** RL responded affirmatively to the proposal and has set up a STUMP instance on our server, which he is in the process of testing.&lt;br /&gt;
*** There are various associated e-mail addresses on the ngp.big-8.org subdomain, one of which autoresponds with the group&amp;#039;s signing key.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Agreed that RL would retire the autoresponder address, since the key is available on our wiki at [[Signing key for news.groups.proposals]].&lt;br /&gt;
*** Agreed that RL would replace the other addresses with addresses on big-8.org and to update the group documentation at [[news.groups.proposals]] accordingly.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Agreed that RL would change the DNS records for the ngp.big-8.org subdomain so that they no longer point to Jonathan&amp;#039;s mail server.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Agreed that RL would inform the ISC of the new submission address.&lt;br /&gt;
*** The group&amp;#039;s signing key uses the e-mail address ngp-approval-key@ngp.big-8.org.  Agreed to leave this as-is for now, as this is just an identifier.  We can later consider adding a new identity with a new address, and/or upgrading to a GPGv2 key.&lt;br /&gt;
* Infrastructure&lt;br /&gt;
** Jitsi Meet: Apparently [https://community.jitsi.org/t/authentication-on-meet-jit-si/125922 the free instance now requires authentication to create rooms], which may explain the &amp;quot;waiting for moderator&amp;quot; message when MM or RL try to join our meeting room without TM.  TM suggested that MM and RL try authenticating to Jitsi (via a third-party service such as Google, Facebook, or GitHub) before joining the meeting room to see if this lets them in.  This can be tested at any time.&lt;br /&gt;
** E-mail from Todd McComb that Jonathan Kamens will also be shutting down his moderation relay, and asking whether we know of anyone who could host a replacement.  MM responded in a personal capacity that he could run such a relay on his own infrastructure.&lt;br /&gt;
** Status of cron jobs for offsite backups:  No further progress by RL.&lt;br /&gt;
** Status of remote monitoring: No further progress by MM.&lt;br /&gt;
** Status of fail2ban: MM has now set this up on our web/mail server.&lt;br /&gt;
* Software/funding&lt;br /&gt;
** TM: No update yet on GPG signing best practices on Savannah&lt;br /&gt;
** Thunderbird 128 contact deferred given Julien&amp;#039;s comments on INN.&lt;br /&gt;
** TM still to respond to Julien.&lt;br /&gt;
** OTF IFF/NGI0/[https://www.sovereigntechfund.de/ Sovereign Tech Fund]: no further updates&lt;br /&gt;
* Misc&lt;br /&gt;
** Paul Schleck proposals: no further progress.&lt;br /&gt;
** TM is offering a [https://clam.cs.umanitoba.ca/open-positions funded doctoral position involving research on Usenet archives]&lt;br /&gt;
** Our &amp;#039;&amp;#039;TUGboat&amp;#039;&amp;#039; article has been published, and seems to be open access already: &amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Rayner Lucas, Tristan Miller, and Marco Moock. [https://dx.doi.org/10.47397/tb/45-3/tb141lucas-usenet Usenet and the future of comp.text.tex.] &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[https://tug.org/TUGboat/ TUGboat: The Communications of the TeX Users Group]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, 45(3):298–301, November 2024. ISSN 0896-3207. DOI: [https://dx.doi.org/10.47397/tb/45-3/tb141lucas-usenet 10.47397/tb/45-3/tb141lucas-usenet].&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
** RL might not make the 22 or 29 November meetings due to a conflicting appointment.&lt;br /&gt;
** TM gave apologies for the 29 November meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Meeting minutes for 2024]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Tristan Miller</name></author>
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