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Undo revision 4165 by Tristan Miller (talk)

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	Present: TM, RL, MM		Present: TM, RL, MM

			* Board membership
			** All three members of the board (JE, RL, TM) having discussed and voted on the matter of enlarging the Board by e-mail, the meeting formally welcomed Marco Moock as a new member. Marco's appointment will be announced in the usual places once all his accounts are set up.
			** TM to arrange for wiki, IMAP, SMTP, and shell access for MM.
			** MM to send his SSH and OpenPGP public keys to TM.
			** RL to create a big-8.org e-mail forwarder for MM.
			** RL to add MM as an additional moderator those groups already moderated by the Board.
	* Administration		* Administration
	** {{news\|comp.~~lang~~.~~asm.x86~~}}		** {{news\|comp.sys.wearables}}
	*** ~~RL still awaiting a response from Ivo and the three volunteers~~ to ~~coordinate setting up a moderation system.~~		*** Still waiting for Greg Pfeil to confirm that he's now set up to send approved posts to this group.
	** [[news.groups.proposals]]		** {{news\|comp.protocols.dns.bind}}
	*** The group's ~~signing key uses the e-mail address ngp-approval-key@ngp.big-8.org. Agreed~~ to ~~leave~~ this ~~as-is for now, as this is just an identifier. We can later consider adding a new identity with a new address, and/or upgrading to a GPGv2 key~~.		*** No response yet from moderator re status of gateway. MM to review the relevant e-mail correspondence in case he wants formulate any concrete recommendations that the Board could then discuss and pass on to the moderator.
	** {{news\|comp.~~compression~~.~~research~~}}		** {{news\|rec.radio.broadcasting}}
	*** ~~TM posted the 2nd RFD~~. ~~Unless a 3rd RFD is warranted, LCC~~ to ~~be posted~~ on ~~2025-05-09~~.		*** RL to ask the volunteer moderator to respond by 15 August, after which time we will proceed with the RFD.
	** Moderated groups without moderators		** {{news\|comp.os.plan9}}
	*** {{news\|soc.genealogy.surnames.britain}}: No further update from volunteer.		*** Agreed to drop the matter if the volunteer does not respond by 15 August.
	*** {{news\|rec.~~humor~~.~~funny~~}}~~: No further communication from Brad Templeton.~~		** {{news\|news.newusers.questions}} and {{news\|news.announce.newusers}}
	*** Ivan Shmakov followed up on his expression of interest in moderating some groups. TM to respond.		*** RL wrote to Kathy to ask how the FAQs are licensed and which of these should be regularly posted. Awaiting a response.
	*** ~~{{news\|comp.binaries.cbm}}:~~ RL to ~~request an update from~~ the ~~new~~ moderator.		*** RL asked ISC to update the moderator submission address, and they have done so.
	*** {{news\|~~rec.arts~~.~~anime~~.~~creative~~}}~~: Expression of interest from tidux in taking over moderation with a robomoderator. RL to respond.~~
	*** ~~MM had approved TM's draft of the LCC. RL~~ to ~~examine~~ the ~~LCC. TM to post~~ the ~~LCC once everyone has approved it~~.
	** {{news\|~~soc~~.~~sexuality~~.~~general~~}} ~~(non-functioning moderated group): Agreed to defer until mass deletion RFD is concluded.~~
	** {{news\|~~soc.culture~~.~~jewish~~.~~moderated~~}} ~~(non-functioning moderated group): Agreed to defer any further action until the current mass deletion RFD is concluded.~~
	** ~~{{news\|comp.sys.wearables}}:~~ RL to ~~ping Greg Pfeil for an update on~~ the ~~moderation infrastructure~~.
	** ~~{{news\|comp.protocols.dns.bind}}: MM~~ to ~~ping Dan Mahoney for an~~ update on the ~~mail-to-news gateway~~.
	* Infrastructure		* Infrastructure
	** ~~Status of cron jobs for offsite backups: The existing Mail in a Box scripts stopped working following~~ the ~~OS update (see below), which may need to be addressed before further work. RL to get~~ backup ~~scripts working so that we can move on to decommissioning Mail in a Box~~.		** RL fixed the PHP error reports from the backup script.
	** ~~TM has updated~~ the ~~OS on our~~ web ~~server to the latest LTS release.~~		** RL investigated the cryptic "web updated" e-mails about the TLS certificate script, and believes this is simply a default success message indicating that no action was taken.
	** TM has updated ~~MediaWiki on our web server to~~ the ~~latest legacy LTS release~~, and ~~will update again to the latest LTS release time permitting~~.		** GigaNews responded to TM's abuse report with a fairly generic message about taking steps to reduce spam. In fact, the flood TM had reported was not spam, but it was agreed not to pursue this matter further unless the problem recurs.
	** ~~mail.big-8.org~~
	~~***~~ TM ~~reported further non-delivery messages which MM determined are related~~ to ~~SPF/DKIM issues when forwarding mail from mail~~.~~big-8.org.~~
	*** Decommissioning of the ~~domain blocked until we have backups in place.~~
	** Decommissioning Mail in a Box, Nextcloud, ~~etc. blocked until we have backups in place.~~
	** RL to ~~continue to investigate whether Apache can be configured to always use~~ the ~~most recent version of PHP, or to exclude PHP from automatic upgrades~~.
	* Software/funding		* Software/funding
	** TM: No update yet on GPG signing best practices on Savannah		** TM: No update yet on GPG signing best practices on Savannah
	** Thunderbird 128 contact deferred ~~given~~ Julien~~'s comments on~~ INN.		** Thunderbird 128 contact deferred pending correspondence with Julien re INN.
	** TM ~~still~~ to ~~respond~~ to ~~Julien.~~		** TM pinged Julien re funded contributions to INN. Agreed that we could consider a smaller proposal to NGI0 Commons if there is no response, or a negative response, by 15 August.
	** OTF IFF/NGI0~~/[https://www~~.~~sovereigntechfund.de/ Sovereign Tech Fund]: no further updates~~
	* Misc		* Misc
	** Agreed to review ~~Paul Schleck~~'s ~~proposals~~ of ~~August 2024 by next meeting~~.		** TUGboat article: RL has produced a short (300-word) draft. The meeting discussed some possibilities for expanding it with additional text and screenshots, and for MM to contribute. Agreed that RL would continue to work on the draft and circulate it when ready for review and further contributions.
			** Agreed to cancel next week's meeting in light of MM's unavailability and TM's possible unavailability.

	[[Category:Meeting minutes for ~~2025~~]]		[[Category:Meeting minutes for 2024]]

Tristan Miller at 18:26, 2 May 2025

2025-05-02T18:26:33Z

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	Present: TM, RL, MM		Present: TM, RL, MM

	* Board membership
	** All three members of the board (JE, RL, TM) having discussed and voted on the matter of enlarging the Board by e-mail, the meeting formally welcomed Marco Moock as a new member. Marco's appointment will be announced in the usual places once all his accounts are set up.
	** TM to arrange for wiki, IMAP, SMTP, and shell access for MM.
	** MM to send his SSH and OpenPGP public keys to TM.
	** RL to create a big-8.org e-mail forwarder for MM.
	** RL to add MM as an additional moderator those groups already moderated by the Board.
	* Administration		* Administration
	** {{news\|comp.~~sys~~.~~wearables~~}}		** {{news\|comp.lang.asm.x86}}
	*** ~~Still waiting for Greg Pfeil~~ to ~~confirm that he~~'s now ~~set up~~ to ~~send approved posts to this group~~.		*** RL still awaiting a response from Ivo and the three volunteers to coordinate setting up a moderation system.
	** {{news\|comp.~~protocols~~.~~dns.bind~~}}		** [[news.groups.proposals]]
	*** ~~No response yet from moderator re status of gateway~~. MM to ~~review the relevant e~~-~~mail correspondence in case he wants formulate any concrete recommendations that the Board could then discuss and pass on to the moderator~~.		*** The group's signing key uses the e-mail address ngp-approval-key@ngp.big-8.org. Agreed to leave this as-is for now, as this is just an identifier. We can later consider adding a new identity with a new address, and/or upgrading to a GPGv2 key.
	** {{news\|rec.~~radio~~.~~broadcasting~~}}		** {{news\|comp.compression.research}}
	*** RL to ~~ask~~ the ~~volunteer~~ moderator ~~to respond by 15 August, after which time we will proceed with the RFD~~.		*** TM posted the 2nd RFD. Unless a 3rd RFD is warranted, LCC to be posted on 2025-05-09.
	** {{news\|~~comp~~.os.~~plan9~~}}		** Moderated groups without moderators
	*** ~~Agreed~~ to ~~drop~~ the ~~matter if~~ the ~~volunteer does not respond by 15 August~~.		*** {{news\|soc.genealogy.surnames.britain}}: No further update from volunteer.
	** {{news\|~~news~~.~~newusers~~.~~questions~~}} ~~and~~ {{news\|~~news~~.~~announce~~.~~newusers~~}}		*** {{news\|rec.humor.funny}}: No further communication from Brad Templeton.
	*** RL ~~wrote~~ to ~~Kathy to ask how~~ the ~~FAQs are licensed and which of these should be regularly posted. Awaiting a response~~.		*** Ivan Shmakov followed up on his expression of interest in moderating some groups. TM to respond.
	*** RL asked ISC to update the ~~moderator submission address, and they have done so~~.		*** {{news\|comp.binaries.cbm}}: RL to request an update from the new moderator.
			*** {{news\|rec.arts.anime.creative}}: Expression of interest from tidux in taking over moderation with a robomoderator. RL to respond.
			*** MM had approved TM's draft of the LCC. RL to examine the LCC. TM to post the LCC once everyone has approved it.
			** {{news\|soc.sexuality.general}} (non-functioning moderated group): Agreed to defer until mass deletion RFD is concluded.
			** {{news\|soc.culture.jewish.moderated}} (non-functioning moderated group): Agreed to defer any further action until the current mass deletion RFD is concluded.
			** {{news\|comp.sys.wearables}}: RL to ping Greg Pfeil for an update on the moderation infrastructure.
			** {{news\|comp.protocols.dns.bind}}: MM to ping Dan Mahoney for an update on the mail-to-news gateway.
	* Infrastructure		* Infrastructure
	** RL ~~fixed the PHP error reports from the~~ backup ~~script~~.		** Status of cron jobs for offsite backups: The existing Mail in a Box scripts stopped working following the OS update (see below), which may need to be addressed before further work. RL to get backup scripts working so that we can move on to decommissioning Mail in a Box.
	** ~~RL investigated~~ the ~~cryptic "~~web updated~~" e-mails about~~ the ~~TLS certificate script~~, and ~~believes this is simply a default success message indicating that no action was taken~~.		** TM has updated the OS on our web server to the latest LTS release.
	** ~~GigaNews responded to~~ TM~~'s abuse report with a fairly generic message about taking steps~~ to ~~reduce spam~~. ~~In fact~~, the ~~flood TM had reported was not spam~~, ~~but it was agreed not~~ to ~~pursue this matter further unless the problem recurs~~.		** TM has updated MediaWiki on our web server to the latest legacy LTS release, and will update again to the latest LTS release time permitting.
			** mail.big-8.org
			*** TM reported further non-delivery messages which MM determined are related to SPF/DKIM issues when forwarding mail from mail.big-8.org.
			*** Decommissioning of the domain blocked until we have backups in place.
			** Decommissioning Mail in a Box, Nextcloud, etc. blocked until we have backups in place.
			** RL to continue to investigate whether Apache can be configured to always use the most recent version of PHP, or to exclude PHP from automatic upgrades.
	* Software/funding		* Software/funding
	** TM: No update yet on GPG signing best practices on Savannah		** TM: No update yet on GPG signing best practices on Savannah
	** Thunderbird 128 contact deferred ~~pending correspondence with~~ Julien re INN.		** Thunderbird 128 contact deferred given Julien's comments on INN.
	** TM ~~pinged~~ Julien ~~re funded contributions to INN~~. ~~Agreed that we could consider a smaller proposal to~~ NGI0 ~~Commons if there is~~ no ~~response, or a negative response, by 15 August.~~		** TM still to respond to Julien.
			** OTF IFF/NGI0/[https://www.sovereigntechfund.de/ Sovereign Tech Fund]: no further updates
	* Misc		* Misc
	** ~~TUGboat article: RL has produced a short (300-word) draft. The meeting discussed some possibilities for expanding it with additional text and screenshots, and for MM to contribute.~~ Agreed ~~that RL would continue~~ to ~~work on the draft and circulate it when ready for~~ review ~~and further contributions.~~		** Agreed to review Paul Schleck's proposals of August 2024 by next meeting.
	** Agreed to cancel next week's meeting ~~in light of MM's unavailability and TM's possible unavailability~~.

	[[Category:Meeting minutes for ~~2024~~]]		[[Category:Meeting minutes for 2025]]

Tristan Miller: Present: TM, RL, MM

2024-08-16T17:18:41Z

Present: TM, RL, MM

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	* Board membership		* Board membership
	** All three members of the board (JE, RL, TM) having discussed and voted on the matter of enlarging the Board by e-mail, the meeting formally welcomed Marco Moock as a new member. Marco's appointment will be announced in the usual places once all his accounts are set up.		** All three members of the board (JE, RL, TM) having discussed and voted on the matter of enlarging the Board by e-mail, the meeting formally welcomed Marco Moock as a new member. Marco's appointment will be announced in the usual places once all his accounts are set up.

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* Board membership
** All three members of the board (JE, RL, TM) having discussed and voted on the matter of enlarging the Board by e-mail, the meeting formally welcomed Marco Moock as a new member. Marco's appointment will be announced in the usual places once all his accounts are set up.
** TM to arrange for wiki, IMAP, SMTP, and shell access for MM.
** MM to send his SSH and OpenPGP public keys to TM.
** RL to create a big-8.org e-mail forwarder for MM.
** RL to add MM as an additional moderator those groups already moderated by the Board.
* Administration
** {{news|comp.sys.wearables}}
*** Still waiting for Greg Pfeil to confirm that he's now set up to send approved posts to this group.
** {{news|comp.protocols.dns.bind}}
*** No response yet from moderator re status of gateway. MM to review the relevant e-mail correspondence in case he wants formulate any concrete recommendations that the Board could then discuss and pass on to the moderator.
** {{news|rec.radio.broadcasting}}
*** RL to ask the volunteer moderator to respond by 15 August, after which time we will proceed with the RFD.
** {{news|comp.os.plan9}}
*** Agreed to drop the matter if the volunteer does not respond by 15 August.
** {{news|news.newusers.questions}} and {{news|news.announce.newusers}}
*** RL wrote to Kathy to ask how the FAQs are licensed and which of these should be regularly posted. Awaiting a response.
*** RL asked ISC to update the moderator submission address, and they have done so.
* Infrastructure
** RL fixed the PHP error reports from the backup script.
** RL investigated the cryptic "web updated" e-mails about the TLS certificate script, and believes this is simply a default success message indicating that no action was taken.
** GigaNews responded to TM's abuse report with a fairly generic message about taking steps to reduce spam. In fact, the flood TM had reported was not spam, but it was agreed not to pursue this matter further unless the problem recurs.
* Software/funding
** TM: No update yet on GPG signing best practices on Savannah
** Thunderbird 128 contact deferred pending correspondence with Julien re INN.
** TM pinged Julien re funded contributions to INN. Agreed that we could consider a smaller proposal to NGI0 Commons if there is no response, or a negative response, by 15 August.
* Misc
** TUGboat article: RL has produced a short (300-word) draft. The meeting discussed some possibilities for expanding it with additional text and screenshots, and for MM to contribute. Agreed that RL would continue to work on the draft and circulate it when ready for review and further contributions.
** Agreed to cancel next week's meeting in light of MM's unavailability and TM's possible unavailability.

[[Category:Meeting minutes for 2024]]