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		<title>Tristan Miller at 15:41, 21 January 2022</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Infrastructure&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Infrastructure&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** SpamCop report&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** SpamCop report&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** JK reported problems arising from an incident in which we apparently reported an e-mail from &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;his &lt;/del&gt;server to SpamCop.  RL had already given a preliminary response to him and shut down our own reporting script on Panix as a precautionary measure. TM thinks the problem was rather that he may have manually reported a spam message forwarded for moderation &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;by JK&#039;s STUMP instance&lt;/del&gt;, not realizing that it was nominally a newsgroup submission.  In this case the solution is for TM to either (1) make sure that his SpamCop account whitelists &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;JK&#039;s &lt;/del&gt;mail server (and to apologize &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;to JK &lt;/del&gt;for the inconvenience), or else (2) use some filter to make messages forwarded by &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;JK&#039;s &lt;/del&gt;mail server more conspicuous so they do not get accidentally reported.  TM to review his logs to determine whether it was really he who reported the message in question.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** JK reported problems arising from an incident in which we apparently reported an e-mail from &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a moderation relay &lt;/ins&gt;server to SpamCop.  RL had already given a preliminary response to him and shut down our own reporting script on Panix as a precautionary measure. TM thinks the problem was rather that he may have manually reported a spam message forwarded for moderation, not realizing that it was nominally a newsgroup submission.  In this case the solution is for TM to either (1) make sure that his SpamCop account whitelists &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the relaying &lt;/ins&gt;mail server (and to apologize for the inconvenience), or else (2) use some filter to make messages forwarded by &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the relaying &lt;/ins&gt;mail server more conspicuous so they do not get accidentally reported.  TM to review his logs to determine whether it was really he who reported the message in question.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Tristan Miller</name></author>
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		<title>Tristan Miller: Created page with &quot;Present: RL, JE, TM  * Administration ** Defunct comp.software.shareware.* groups *** TM has reviewed the procedure to remove newsgroups and will endeavour to prepare the...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2022-01-14T15:42:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Present: RL, JE, TM  * Administration ** Defunct comp.software.shareware.* groups *** TM has reviewed the &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Procedure_to_remove_newsgroups&quot; title=&quot;Procedure to remove newsgroups&quot;&gt;procedure to remove newsgroups&lt;/a&gt; and will endeavour to prepare the...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Present: RL, JE, TM&lt;br /&gt;
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* Administration&lt;br /&gt;
** Defunct comp.software.shareware.* groups&lt;br /&gt;
*** TM has reviewed the [[procedure to remove newsgroups]] and will endeavour to prepare the necessary RfDs for the Board&amp;#039;s review by the next meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
* Moderation test group&lt;br /&gt;
** JE has learned through the Usenet discussions he initiated that there is already newsgroup in the de.* hierarchy that does exactly what he had proposed.  He will investigate it in further detail and then update our documentation to recommend its use.&lt;br /&gt;
* Infrastructure&lt;br /&gt;
** SpamCop report&lt;br /&gt;
*** JK reported problems arising from an incident in which we apparently reported an e-mail from his server to SpamCop.  RL had already given a preliminary response to him and shut down our own reporting script on Panix as a precautionary measure. TM thinks the problem was rather that he may have manually reported a spam message forwarded for moderation by JK&amp;#039;s STUMP instance, not realizing that it was nominally a newsgroup submission.  In this case the solution is for TM to either (1) make sure that his SpamCop account whitelists JK&amp;#039;s mail server (and to apologize to JK for the inconvenience), or else (2) use some filter to make messages forwarded by JK&amp;#039;s mail server more conspicuous so they do not get accidentally reported.  TM to review his logs to determine whether it was really he who reported the message in question.&lt;br /&gt;
* Misc&lt;br /&gt;
** JE reported that he is providing new Usenet archives (articles from 2003 to present) to archive.org&lt;br /&gt;
* STUMP&lt;br /&gt;
** RL reported that Owen has sent more changes concerning nice usability features.  RL will try to review them on the weekend.  At some point in the near future we can do a 2.6 release.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Tristan Miller</name></author>
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