Nan:2010-02-22-rfd-comp.lang.java.announce

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From: Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartolich@gmx.at>
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.lang.java.announce moderated (remove)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:36:16 EST
Message-ID: <hls7n9$pka$1@news.albasani.net>


              REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
              moderated group comp.lang.java.announce

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
newsgroup comp.lang.java.announce.

RATIONALE:

Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.

<comp-lang-java-announce@moderators.isc.org>: host
  moderators.individual.net[130.133.4.7] said: 550 Unrouteable address (in
  reply to RCPT TO command)

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

comp.lang.java.announce	Announcements re the Java System. (Moderated)

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.lang.java.announce
comp.lang.misc

CHARTER OF COMP.LANG.JAVA.ANNOUNCE

  This moderated, low-volume group is for Java-related announcements,
  including:

    o  new releases of software
       (compilers, development kits, browsers, etc.)
    o  new publicly accessible applets
    o  events (user group meetings, conferences, etc.)
    o  new packages or announcements of official specification changes.

  This is not a discussion group (posts that are likely to generate
  discussion should have follow-ups set to one of the other Java groups).

  Moderation policy:

  The intent of moderation is to ensure this is a low-noise group, and to
  prevent excessive advertising by any single company.  Posts announcing
  commercial products are acceptable, providing they are kept to a
  reasonable frequency.
  It is not appropriate to post binary classfiles or long source listings
  on any of these groups. Instead, the post should reference a WWW or FTP
  site (short source snippets to demonstrate a particular point or problem
  are fine).

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

comp.lang.java.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 491:38 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 11 Jun 1996.

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartolich@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads
in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.

In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.

Available options for comp.lang.java.announce are:
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group

For more information on the MVI process, please see 

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi

CHANGE HISTORY:

2010-01-19	Probe post
2010-01-24	Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-02-06	1st RFD
2010-02-21	2nd RFD
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