From: The Big-8 Management Board <>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,rec.hunting.dogs,news.groups.proposals
Subject: RFD: remove rec.hunting.dogs moderated (LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS)
Followup-To: news.groups.proposals
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:47:14 -0700
Message-ID: <nan.20080313054714$>

                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
                        remove rec.hunting.dogs

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated
newsgroup rec.hunting.dogs.


The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days.  Please
offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting
period.  Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be posted
following the end of the voting period.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.proposals.

The full group removal procedure is documented here:


No summary offered by the proponent.

RATIONALE: remove rec.hunting.dogs

This is a dead group.  There has been no viable activity on this group
for nearly a year (maybe longer).  Even before that, the activity level
of this group was extremely low (no more than 1 or 2 posts per month).
Note that this is despite the fact that the moderator (myself, the
proponent of the removal RFD) dutifully checks for new posts on a
regular basis (at least one per week).

It is important to note that it is the moderator of the group who is
initiating the proposal.


The group was originally a spin off from rec.hunting back in the
mid-1990's.  Because of the number and nature of dog-related posts, it
was felt a separate discussion group under the hierarchy of rec.hunting
should be created.  After an appropriate RFD & CFV process which showed
very little opposition to the proposal, the group was created.   The
moderator was designated to be myself (Chris Barnes); to date, this is
the only moderator the group has ever had.


This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:

  news.announce.newgroups (moderated)
  news.groups.proposals (moderated)
  rec.hunting.dogs (moderated)


The newsgroup line is:

rec.hunting.dogs        Hunting topics specifically related to using dogs. (Moderated)

The charter, culled from the call for votes:

The charter of this group is to be virtually identical to the charter
of rec.hunting, with the additional requirement that posts should have
something to do with dogs.

Specifically, the group is expressly PRO-HUNTING and PRO-DOG USE in
nature.  Allowable topics would include any area that would be related
to the use of dogs while hunting.  This includes, but is not limited
to dog issues such as training, breeding, health issues, and field
trial & hunting test issues.  Also, any hunting related topic where a
dog may be used is allowable (including, but not limited to choice of
firearm, bullets, hunting seasons, bag limits, etc.).  Advertising of
personal items for sale and responsibly bred puppies is also allowed.


Chris Barnes <>


2008-01-17     1st RFD
2008-03-12     2nd RFD/LCC